Wednesday, May 30, 2012

Instant 8x10 P/N

Nafis Azad holds up the first instant 8x10 P/N in Ashland
If you can make a 4x5 positive negative system that can be field processed that gives you a sharp negative and a balanced print, why not one for 8x10?  Precisely that is being done, this one just from today's experiment at New55 conducted by 20x24 Studio's Nafis Azad, who muscled our Saltzman around with its 8x10 view camera into a position looking at a lot of 4x5 results we had posted. 

Just like New55, less Polatrash is produced, but with four times the area and more acreage to process, this will be a boost that 8x10 photography has needed for a long time, as Polaroid didn't produce a monochrome 8x10 equivalent to T55.  But we can. Click here for more fun.

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29 comments:

Anonymous said...

WOW!

John Reuter said...

This could actually be easier to bring to market than a 4x5 product. The assembly machinery still exists.

jasonboulanger said...

Wow, that's pretty awesome. Will this require a polaroid processor?

Bob Crowley said...

We processed between sheet metal rollers, so, maybe not. This iteration is a LOT simpler than Polaroid 8x10. It does require a little handling in a dark bag, at present, but was daylight processed. Like New55, the negative gets dunked in fixer and rinsed, and the positive is ready to use.

jasonboulanger said...

That's really, really cool, and I can't wait for this to be made available!

Rick Rosen said...

Hey John,
This is great news! I am excited to see you working on new Polaroid products. Remember when we lugged the 20x24 outside at Victor School?
All the best and good luck!
Rick Rosen

Nick Stentzel said...

This is just made my day! I can't wait to be a customer!

Anonymous said...

I just picked up an old speed graphic 4x5. I also have my polaroid back. I just saw you talking about new t55. Is this true? They are going to produce it again? Very exciting news if so. Sick of the over priced outta date stuff on ebay.

Brian Miller said...

Any idea what this might cost? The Polaroid 8x10 still available over at the Impossible Project is something like $35/sheet. Would $20/sheet be feasible?

Frank said...

When and how we could buy these things?

Greg Bartley said...

Brilliant , I need it right now

cafe selavy said...

Psyched!

CARL CHIARENZA said...

IS A 4X5 VERSION FOR POLAROID 4X5 HOLDER AVAILABLE?

CARL CHIARENZA said...

IS A 4X5 VERSION THAT FITS POLA 55 FILM HOLDER AVAILABLE???

Laura Allen Photography said...

This is so cool. Bob, I'm glad I kept the 10x8 processor now although if I hadn't offered it you in the first place we would never have become friends.

Ed Araquel said...

Bring it on! My Cambo SC 8x10 is hungry :)

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Anonymous said...

These are really good news! Please bring it on!
BTW, what kind of fixer was used?

Bob Crowley said...

Ilford rapid fixer, followed by water wash and dry.

Bob Crowley said...

Start with the cost of a regular 8x10 negative vs a 4x5. The two scale up about the same. But there is no price info yet.

Bob Crowley said...

Laura you have been more important to this project than you know. I am grateful to you, Laura.

Anonymous said...

WooHoo!!!

Anonymous said...

(you know who...)

Ron Cowie said...

I remember playing with this stuff when I assisted a photographer in Boston. Polaroid had this technology for a long time.
The problem any user is going to run into is the thin emulsion. At least that is my experience.

Bob Crowley said...

I'm not aware that the emulsion was any thinner than ordinary, but it can be scratched. Anyway whatever they used, we are not using, as SO139 is long gone. The negative is like any B&W negative, except way cooler.

DTR was invented by Edith Weyde, a German scientist, in the 1930s. We give homage to Edith and her discovery.

Hans Spieringhs said...

This is totally awesome.
Is this done in partnership with Impossible ? Because they are releasing 8x10 pretty soon.
I don't have a 8x10 camera of processor. But you never know...... :)

byt the way. Would it also be possible to make a Type 100 version ?

Max said...

what are you using as the positive out of interest, endless information out there about mono baths and the negatives but never seem to find much about the receiving sheet, thought you would be the guy to ask!

cheers max

Anonymous said...

Hi Max
There are some posts about the receiver and also a patent or two. I think you can search it. The sheet is a baryta paper with nucleating surface and toning layers.

Bob

Justin Parker said...

Can you provide any more information about the baryta paper, choice of nucleating surface and toning layers for those of who are interested in doing this in crude home brew style until yours is industrialized?